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]]> By: Mike http://particletree.com/features/the-importance-of-rss/#comment-161 Mike Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:51:00 +0000 http://s2462.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-161 <p>I think your message is dead on! However, I would add a couple of pieces to it. There are two things that make sites like blinklist and del.icio.us very useful.</p> <p>One is face time as you have stated. However, there are more reasons. blinklist can act as a knowledge center and a place to discover the links you and people like you care about.</p> <p>With sites such as technorati and blinklist, I think Google is loosing out on the entertainment site. After all, why go to Google? It is stale, old, and all the top sites are driven by SEO people.</p> <p>So, what Google has left is just pure information search and research. For product search I go to eBay, shopping.com, etc. and for entertainment I turn to new sites like technorati, etc. If I find something I like, I blinklist it.</p> <p>Great post! Wow, there are a lot of changes coming down the pipe.</p> I think your message is dead on! However, I would add a couple of pieces to it. There are two things that make sites like blinklist and del.icio.us very useful.

One is face time as you have stated. However, there are more reasons. blinklist can act as a knowledge center and a place to discover the links you and people like you care about.

With sites such as technorati and blinklist, I think Google is loosing out on the entertainment site. After all, why go to Google? It is stale, old, and all the top sites are driven by SEO people.

So, what Google has left is just pure information search and research. For product search I go to eBay, shopping.com, etc. and for entertainment I turn to new sites like technorati, etc. If I find something I like, I blinklist it.

Great post! Wow, there are a lot of changes coming down the pipe.

]]> By: Kevin Hale http://particletree.com/features/the-importance-of-rss/#comment-160 Kevin Hale Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:49:00 +0000 http://s2462.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-160 <p>X, I never suggested that comments should be abandoned or eliminated. I certainly don’t believe it’s practical for Google to not keep track of that information (alistapart.com is a great example of comments enhancing and building upon the work done by their articles). Thanks to plugins (I’m thinking Wordpress) that allow people to subscribe to an RSS feed of comments in an entry, I don’t see why syndication in that area wouldn’t be valuable as well. I think the problem is that the information providers, due to poor implementation of commenting systems and the open nature of them, will always be vulnerable to people desiring to pollute/take advantage of face-time. Public comment ranking, which is in use at Slashdot, would be a nice solution for determining which comments deserve to show in an RSS feed, but only work with very large audiences/users.</p> <p>While I agree that the basic ideas in the essay aren’t very complicated (does it need to be to be relevant and interesting?), RSS is what is being implemented right now and while other more “intelligent” data structures are available, I see their lack of “standardization” and adoption irrelevant to the current situation.</p> <p>Also, while talking about ontologies is interesting to a very small subset of people, how RSS might change the Internet economy is a little more useful (if not interesting) I think.</p> X, I never suggested that comments should be abandoned or eliminated. I certainly don’t believe it’s practical for Google to not keep track of that information (alistapart.com is a great example of comments enhancing and building upon the work done by their articles). Thanks to plugins (I’m thinking Wordpress) that allow people to subscribe to an RSS feed of comments in an entry, I don’t see why syndication in that area wouldn’t be valuable as well. I think the problem is that the information providers, due to poor implementation of commenting systems and the open nature of them, will always be vulnerable to people desiring to pollute/take advantage of face-time. Public comment ranking, which is in use at Slashdot, would be a nice solution for determining which comments deserve to show in an RSS feed, but only work with very large audiences/users.

While I agree that the basic ideas in the essay aren’t very complicated (does it need to be to be relevant and interesting?), RSS is what is being implemented right now and while other more “intelligent” data structures are available, I see their lack of “standardization” and adoption irrelevant to the current situation.

Also, while talking about ontologies is interesting to a very small subset of people, how RSS might change the Internet economy is a little more useful (if not interesting) I think.

]]> By: Kevin Hale http://particletree.com/features/the-importance-of-rss/#comment-159 Kevin Hale Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:20:00 +0000 http://s2462.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-159 <p>X, before I get to your comments, which I'm jumping up and down to get to, let me take care of this:</p> <p>Fatalis, thanks for the lesson on Internet grammar and thanks for being nice about it. Good to know Nazis like you are making writing better one ass comment at a time :</p> <p><a href="http://www.googletutor.com/2005/05/31/firefoxtutor/#comment-295" rel="nofollow">http://www.googletutor.com/2005/05/31/firefoxtutor/#comment-295</a></p> X, before I get to your comments, which I’m jumping up and down to get to, let me take care of this:

Fatalis, thanks for the lesson on Internet grammar and thanks for being nice about it. Good to know Nazis like you are making writing better one ass comment at a time :

http://www.googletutor.com/2005/05/31/firefoxtutor/#comment-295

]]> By: X http://particletree.com/features/the-importance-of-rss/#comment-158 X Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:24:00 +0000 http://s2462.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-158 <p>I also feel that as in most pop discussions you are already simplifying the discussion and dumbing it down. The issue isn’t (or wasn’t) rss which is a fairly rudimentary application of xml, but richder data structures and “ontologies” leading to increasingly “intelligent” forms along with standardization of such things as accounting models and health insurance data. There is a naive aspect to your approach in that this kind of thing has been tried before and is of course subject to pollution and disagreement, no one knows the best models for data organization, they all have limits and compliance with a standard once you try to do something serious is much easier said than done. This is just using basic tools, but there are already relational and other non hierarchial models for xml and to the extent people go in this direction might there not be a drive for a more elegant (simpler and more powerfuil) expression such as Lisp s-expressions, allowing more effectivie and readable integration of the map and data?</p> <p>I sort of feel like it’s 1979 all over again or even 1968 with the famous Engelabrt demo, I for one believe that not only was the mouse more powerful (3 buttons, more functions) but that the linking and structure of the hypertext was more powerful, indeed it easily represented blog structure. The problem of course has always been willingness to apply tools and while you may gasp at weaker sets, the qquestion is will bloggers and others show the discipline necesary tom organize and will various private entities refrain from attempting standards or sub standards?</p> I also feel that as in most pop discussions you are already simplifying the discussion and dumbing it down. The issue isn’t (or wasn’t) rss which is a fairly rudimentary application of xml, but richder data structures and “ontologies” leading to increasingly “intelligent” forms along with standardization of such things as accounting models and health insurance data. There is a naive aspect to your approach in that this kind of thing has been tried before and is of course subject to pollution and disagreement, no one knows the best models for data organization, they all have limits and compliance with a standard once you try to do something serious is much easier said than done. This is just using basic tools, but there are already relational and other non hierarchial models for xml and to the extent people go in this direction might there not be a drive for a more elegant (simpler and more powerfuil) expression such as Lisp s-expressions, allowing more effectivie and readable integration of the map and data?

I sort of feel like it’s 1979 all over again or even 1968 with the famous Engelabrt demo, I for one believe that not only was the mouse more powerful (3 buttons, more functions) but that the linking and structure of the hypertext was more powerful, indeed it easily represented blog structure. The problem of course has always been willingness to apply tools and while you may gasp at weaker sets, the qquestion is will bloggers and others show the discipline necesary tom organize and will various private entities refrain from attempting standards or sub standards?

]]> By: X http://particletree.com/features/the-importance-of-rss/#comment-157 X Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:14:00 +0000 http://s2462.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-157 <p>I worry about the elimination of comments that you are suggesting. Comments are what make blogs multi directional, they bring in new information and links, they explore topics in depth and can develop “intellectual communities.”</p> I worry about the elimination of comments that you are suggesting. Comments are what make blogs multi directional, they bring in new information and links, they explore topics in depth and can develop “intellectual communities.”

]]> By: Fatalis http://particletree.com/features/the-importance-of-rss/#comment-156 Fatalis Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:43:00 +0000 http://s2462.gridserver.com/wordpress/?p=39#comment-156 <p>Please don’t decide to capitalize brand names based just on your own misguided sense of esthetics. del.icio.us is meant to be written without a capital D.</p> Please don’t decide to capitalize brand names based just on your own misguided sense of esthetics. del.icio.us is meant to be written without a capital D.

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