Comments on: On the Tenacity of Internet Explorer 6 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/ Everyone needs a hug. Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:43:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: semper-fi http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22049 semper-fi Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:20:37 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-22049 <p>I also like the theory very much. And for me it really makes sense. If I remember classes about motivation theorie correct. There are really only two types of basic motivation. Either leave something behind (e.g. popup) or get something (e.g. tabs). I don't really see currently any new trends which should encourage the move away or to. Okay layer-ads are also extremly anoying ;)</p> I also like the theory very much. And for me it really makes sense. If I remember classes about motivation theorie correct. There are really only two types of basic motivation. Either leave something behind (e.g. popup) or get something (e.g. tabs). I don’t really see currently any new trends which should encourage the move away or to. Okay layer-ads are also extremly anoying ;)

]]> By: murali http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22018 murali Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:46:42 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-22018 <p>i wish to switch back to ie 6 after finding certain problems with ie 7 any solution</p> i wish to switch back to ie 6 after finding certain problems with ie 7 any solution

]]> By: James Pederson http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-21901 James Pederson Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:53:53 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-21901 <p>While upgrading to IE7 is a start, wouldn't any coherent designer prefer that users get Firefox? We could go over drawbacks to IE all day, so should we advocate for our users to download their updates so that they can use the most recent version of their inferior browser? I hope not...</p> <p>The problem is that no matter what we do, people will go to a site, and if it breaks in IE7, they will just go back to the SERPs and choose a different result. Our job will never get easier, because Microsoft will never implement what may seem standard to any other browser development team. It's pretty depressing. Just thought I'd cheer everyone up!</p> While upgrading to IE7 is a start, wouldn’t any coherent designer prefer that users get Firefox? We could go over drawbacks to IE all day, so should we advocate for our users to download their updates so that they can use the most recent version of their inferior browser? I hope not…

The problem is that no matter what we do, people will go to a site, and if it breaks in IE7, they will just go back to the SERPs and choose a different result. Our job will never get easier, because Microsoft will never implement what may seem standard to any other browser development team. It’s pretty depressing. Just thought I’d cheer everyone up!

]]> By: Christian Weyer http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-21788 Christian Weyer Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:30:31 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-21788 <p>Perhaps the web designers need to push the user a little in the right direction. My company just made a massive AJAXed project and we decided not to support IE6, since it would take weeks to get such a complex site looking somewhat ok in IE 6 (read: transparency, fixed navigation etc..). We know that this is kind of a brave step, because there are many people out there using IE6, but we think if they get more and more error messages (which say that their browser is 5 years old, which is <em>very</em> old) the might move to IE 7.</p> Perhaps the web designers need to push the user a little in the right direction. My company just made a massive AJAXed project and we decided not to support IE6, since it would take weeks to get such a complex site looking somewhat ok in IE 6 (read: transparency, fixed navigation etc..). We know that this is kind of a brave step, because there are many people out there using IE6, but we think if they get more and more error messages (which say that their browser is 5 years old, which is very old) the might move to IE 7.

]]> By: Jeff http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-21782 Jeff Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:53:06 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-21782 <p>I think you're over estimating the technical savvy of many users. Today, I still meet people who don't know what browser they use, and have never installed a program that did not arrive on a disk. Many simply install the disk that came with there DSL/Cable service and thats the end of the story. What if you do this new browser thing and then your computer breaks . . . then what? For many, their computer is a spooky and mysterious necessity.</p> I think you’re over estimating the technical savvy of many users. Today, I still meet people who don’t know what browser they use, and have never installed a program that did not arrive on a disk. Many simply install the disk that came with there DSL/Cable service and thats the end of the story. What if you do this new browser thing and then your computer breaks … then what? For many, their computer is a spooky and mysterious necessity.

]]> By: James http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-21751 James Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:52:41 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-21751 <p>Another thing a lot of people tend to forget is that Safari for Windows is mostly composed of WebKit -- Apple's OpenSource rendering engine.</p> <p>Most people don't realize this, but iTunes uses WebKit for rendering the iTunes Music Store. That's right... The iTunes Music Store has always basically been running the innards of Safari from day one. Safari itself is just the chrome that surrounds WebKit. So, while we all think of Safari running on Windows as a new thing, the truth is that WebKit's been on Windows for awhile. Now that an OpenSource version of WebKit is available for Windows, people can actually build iTunes Music Store-esque applications using WebKit if they really want to.</p> <p>Clearly WebKit for Windows isn't quite ready for prime-time yet, but I think that's what Apple is working on during this Beta period. They're trying to attract more Open Source developers to help squashing bugs before they start pushing WebKit apps to those same developers.</p> Another thing a lot of people tend to forget is that Safari for Windows is mostly composed of WebKit — Apple’s OpenSource rendering engine.

Most people don’t realize this, but iTunes uses WebKit for rendering the iTunes Music Store. That’s right… The iTunes Music Store has always basically been running the innards of Safari from day one. Safari itself is just the chrome that surrounds WebKit. So, while we all think of Safari running on Windows as a new thing, the truth is that WebKit’s been on Windows for awhile. Now that an OpenSource version of WebKit is available for Windows, people can actually build iTunes Music Store-esque applications using WebKit if they really want to.

Clearly WebKit for Windows isn’t quite ready for prime-time yet, but I think that’s what Apple is working on during this Beta period. They’re trying to attract more Open Source developers to help squashing bugs before they start pushing WebKit apps to those same developers.

]]> By: Alex Shepherd http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-21694 Alex Shepherd Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:44:51 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-21694 <p>Great article. I enjoyed reading it.</p> Great article. I enjoyed reading it.

]]> By: Xavez http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-21673 Xavez Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:07:59 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-21673 <blockquote>your typical user is incredibly lazy and hates change</blockquote> <p>What's new :p?</p> your typical user is incredibly lazy and hates change

What’s new :p?

]]> By: Zsolt http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-21634 Zsolt Sun, 08 Jul 2007 08:10:42 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-21634 <p>Interesting point of view, but it seems like you forgot Opera Mini which currently is the #1 mobile phone browser. It works on every phone with java on it. iPhone will never have that kind of a broad "possible " customer base, because it's just to expensive and I'm sure the hype around it we'll die out pretty soon.</p> <p>So the only thing i can say is that while normal people will be out drinking <a href="http://www.operamini.com/beta/video/" rel="nofollow">beer</a> iPhone users will be playing with their phones in some dark corner of their home.</p> Interesting point of view, but it seems like you forgot Opera Mini which currently is the #1 mobile phone browser. It works on every phone with java on it. iPhone will never have that kind of a broad “possible ” customer base, because it’s just to expensive and I’m sure the hype around it we’ll die out pretty soon.

So the only thing i can say is that while normal people will be out drinking beer iPhone users will be playing with their phones in some dark corner of their home.

]]> By: Eddie http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/comment-page-1/#comment-21630 Eddie Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:32:18 +0000 http://particletree.com/features/on-the-tenacity-of-internet-explorer-6/#comment-21630 <p>I'm so relieved, I thought it was just me who thought the UI for IE7 was a usability nightmare. I've got to say though that I get a lot of crashes with Firefox on XP, often relating to downloads and it fairly regularly wants to download a php script instead of opening a page. Having used the web probably every day since 1994 I've got to say I'm a bit disgruntled at the minute, can't put my finger on it, I think all the Myspace users are making me depressed.</p> I’m so relieved, I thought it was just me who thought the UI for IE7 was a usability nightmare. I’ve got to say though that I get a lot of crashes with Firefox on XP, often relating to downloads and it fairly regularly wants to download a php script instead of opening a page. Having used the web probably every day since 1994 I’ve got to say I’m a bit disgruntled at the minute, can’t put my finger on it, I think all the Myspace users are making me depressed.

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